I like to be challenged but what drives me crazy is the mindless banter on this site no clear lesson content. It's like trying to filter out all the garbage and absorb the important stuff. Googling for information that is not available on this site. What's the point if I am on Google and or Youtube to find answers or at least a hint. Why bother to keep getting frustrated I am not learning anything. There are better sources I am going to seek my learning elsewhere. It's too bad I feel that this site could have helped people learn Java.