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Hi, nice to meet you.

Hey! Actually, you may already apply for a job for Junior Java Developer. And when you accept the job offer and start working, you can upgrade your experience at the project you are involved. Apart from that, you may the references here.

Regina, I assume you work for codegym? Can you advise on the chase of getting interview offers without a CS degree? Have you been a professional prorammer yourself in industry? Do you recommend Oracle certification in Java Programming to demonstrate one's ability in Jave Programming?

You will get offers without a CS degree, if you have the skills. CodeGym will give you the skills to build things you can show recruiters. Oracle certification is worthwhile. The exams are tough and you can't pass them without good Java skills. My .02

Thanks Joe, May I ask what is your programming background? Have you work in industry? What can you share with us regarding your journey?

I do not work in industry. I am not even a very good coder. Level 8 is hard for me! I am a teacher. My opinion, and it is just my opinion, comes from speaking with industry and agency folks, who have hired my students, and seeing students get to the "first rung" of the ladder, entry-level. I believe after looking at CG that this platform will take you past the skill level you need to get a junior-level job. I see that Regina says get to level 40 to apply for a junior-level job, I agree with her. It seems to me that you will be well-prepared for that first job by doing this course through level 40, and doing the projects in the course. There is a lot here, including smart, hard-working students ( including yourself at level 31, my guess is less than 1000 CG students worldwide have made it that far) who are investing a lot of time into making themselves better at coding, and I respect the emphasis on practice as the best way to learn. The need for talent exceeds the supply of good coders, in my opinion. One manager told me her company will need tens of thousands of programmers in the next 10 years. GM is hiring 3000 coders/tech people in the next 4 months as they convert to all-electric platforms: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2020/11/09/gm-hiring-for-tech-jobs-ev-push/6220665002/ VW just ordered 1400 robots from FANUC to build their new cars in Emden and Chattanooga. Someone will need to program those. https://www.fanuc.eu/dk/en/who-we-are/news/eu-vw-11-2020 I think you could probably do the Oracle 808 cert right now, that is an entry cert. Not easy, at all, but I think you could do it. https://education.oracle.com/oracle-certified-associate-java-se-8-programmer/trackp_333 Good luck to you as you continue moving forward, BJB.

I really appreciate your words of encouragement and insight! Truly, I thank you! Right now at level 31 I feel I have learnt a lot, but I feel I still have to learn so much more! Java is absolutely enormous! This course is fantastic, but it is not without it's flaws. I think I've put in 1000 hours of effort into it so far since I joined in March. May I wish you all the best in your journey!

Hahah! I wonder, if the picture was of a grumpy old lady, would people still keep asking, where's she from? :D

I doubt Regina would like to go through this social experiment, but yeah it could have clarified what exactly some people pursue here. :D

Why are you asking?

No, I am not. :)

I see, your name is famous here in Hungary, it is a pretty name :D

Nice of you. Thanks. :)

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